Ever wonder what made the person that came up with this wonderful thing think of it in the first place? I mean really, lets think about it. People in general love the thrill of competition. Lots of people go to auctions, and basically, like the guy says on the movie "Robots"....."see a need, fill a need". That pretty much sums it up. And eBay has been around for what, maybe 10 years more or less?
Anyway, the premis behind all of this is that I finally got Greg to auction some things off on eBay. Things like our old grips/pegs, pipes, and other things that we used to collect, but are no longer "in to". Like antiques....I used to collect enamelware. Now I have quite a bit of it, and decided it was just taking up too much space...Greg has some really old matchbooks, those are up for sale....just stuff like that. I figure, if all sells for just the asking price, we'll have about $400....take out the fees, and guessing HIGH, we'll still have over $350. Not bad if you ask me.
Beyond that, not much to report. We went on a ride today....about 100 miles. It was soooooo nice to get out, and the weather was near perfect.
Before I forget....for those of you that know about the "boy" (he is 19) who usually takes care of the dogs when we are gone....he purchased a Great Dane from the animal shelter in Macomb. Yes, I said PURCHASED. The reason I say that is because they charged him $75 for a 6 year old dog they confiscated from someone's house where she was abused and used as a brood bitch (so the story goes). Anyway, she is not spayed, nor was there a contract requiring him to get her spayed. No documentation proving she had been vaccinated, nothing. Just a receipt out of a book, bought at WalMart no doubt, stating he had paid the fee. That's it. I was in shock. I kept telling him I didn't believe him, that shelters don't operate that way, until he pulled out the receipt. Then later, after looking over the dog (she is a blue merle, nice, but petite)Greg reminded me that we had gone there once, and they tried to get us to PURCHASE a black GSD with no contract. No wonder I didn't get her. So tonight, the topic of this dog came up again, and how this boy and his girl won't be able to handle this dog, etc. (she is too much temperment-wise for them)and how we will probably have the dog here by Thanksgiving. It wouldn't suprise me. She needs a strong person. She tried to fence fight with Elite, tried to eat Max, and growled at Ben. I took the leash from him, and as soon as she went to Elite's pen and her hair started to go up, I stood between them and made her sit. I was firm, but not loud. After about 3 times, she was able to walk by the pen with no fuss. When she tried to eat Max, the boy didn't know what to do. I grabbed her collar and booted Max out of the way, then made her sit again. She was a quick study and didn't mess with him anymore. She then would come to me and immediately sit and wait to be rubbed....good girl. But the boy isn't that firm, and neither is his girlfriend. They already have 2 dogs at their house, and I tried to really explain to him the need for crates, and the full run down on how to introduce the new dog to avoid a fight. I even sent him home with a medium and an extra large crate. Sad thing is, we rode by their house today on our way home....they were at a flea market (which we knew they were going to) and going to be gone for at least 12 hours, and they had the Dane chained up in the yard to a tree. The chain was similar to what you put on your tires in the winter....big links. ugh, even Greg commented on it, saying he couldn't believe they had her chained up like that. As I said, she'll probably be here by Thanksgiving. Although, the boy said if she shows aggression to him or his girl, or even bites them, he is going to shoot her. :( I told him not to put her in a situation where she would, but he can't read dogs anymore than the man on the moon, so you can imagine what will happen in the next week or so.
Thats my "holy shit what an idiot" story for the week. I'm sure there will be more to come, as his time with this dog progresses. You can see me rolling my eyes, shaking my head, and muttering under my breath. So until next time...try to make a difference, hopefully someone will listen.
Saturday, October 20, 2007
Monday, October 15, 2007
JND
After pounding out a semi-rushed blog last night, and further thought this morning, I wanted to put this out there.
For The Handler and myself, we know what JND stands for, and is....and as for the others who read this, I'm sure you know what it is, you just don't call it JND.
JND = Just Noticeable Differenc
This is when there is the slightest of change in your dog's body/body language. For example: Your dog is "on point", you say his name, and all you see is a slight ear twitch...JND....Your dog is asleep, you whisper his name, and get a tail twitch, or ear twitch...JND....in Detection work, a slight head turn during a search...JND....You get the point.
So yesterday, Greg was standing out by Carlo's kennel. Carlo was standing there, tail wagging, ears relaxed, body relaxed, and the slight avoidance of prolonged eye contact. I told Greg to watch his dog, and walked casually over to the kennel. It was slight, but the tail stopped wagging, the ears went slightly forward, and his body tensed. It looked as if he "puffed up". He looked directly at me, and his whole "aura" was that of being on guard, ready to spring, or posturing in that "I'm bigger than you" stance...JND. It was then that I think the light really came on for Greg....he understood how Carlo is towards me. I have talked for years about JND, but I think he really saw and knew what I was talking about at that moment.
I type this blog, not only to illustrate JND, but also in a response to Novel....I don't think its a thyroid issue, or low electrolites....I thougth initially that your idea really might be a possibility. But after seeing his attitude yesterday, and comparing that to his bad attitude for the last 2 weeks, I think its just me. I think that if he acted rude to Greg as well, then other ideas such as yours would be a definite consideration. But alas, it just comes down to the fact that the dog genuinly hates me...lol.
Anyway, I wanted to put that out there, for all you dog lovers, and as future reference or explaination of "what is my dog doing?", "I think my dog is ignoring me". Its said that everytime we learn something new, our brains get a new wrinkle....congratulations, I give you wrinkles!! LOLOL
For The Handler and myself, we know what JND stands for, and is....and as for the others who read this, I'm sure you know what it is, you just don't call it JND.
JND = Just Noticeable Differenc
This is when there is the slightest of change in your dog's body/body language. For example: Your dog is "on point", you say his name, and all you see is a slight ear twitch...JND....Your dog is asleep, you whisper his name, and get a tail twitch, or ear twitch...JND....in Detection work, a slight head turn during a search...JND....You get the point.
So yesterday, Greg was standing out by Carlo's kennel. Carlo was standing there, tail wagging, ears relaxed, body relaxed, and the slight avoidance of prolonged eye contact. I told Greg to watch his dog, and walked casually over to the kennel. It was slight, but the tail stopped wagging, the ears went slightly forward, and his body tensed. It looked as if he "puffed up". He looked directly at me, and his whole "aura" was that of being on guard, ready to spring, or posturing in that "I'm bigger than you" stance...JND. It was then that I think the light really came on for Greg....he understood how Carlo is towards me. I have talked for years about JND, but I think he really saw and knew what I was talking about at that moment.
I type this blog, not only to illustrate JND, but also in a response to Novel....I don't think its a thyroid issue, or low electrolites....I thougth initially that your idea really might be a possibility. But after seeing his attitude yesterday, and comparing that to his bad attitude for the last 2 weeks, I think its just me. I think that if he acted rude to Greg as well, then other ideas such as yours would be a definite consideration. But alas, it just comes down to the fact that the dog genuinly hates me...lol.
Anyway, I wanted to put that out there, for all you dog lovers, and as future reference or explaination of "what is my dog doing?", "I think my dog is ignoring me". Its said that everytime we learn something new, our brains get a new wrinkle....congratulations, I give you wrinkles!! LOLOL
Sunday, October 14, 2007
Productive Day
Today, albeit a Sunday, was very productive at our house. The morning started out fixing Carlo's feeding station. We decided just to take the whole thing out, and I would lock him in his dog house when it was time to feed.
Cleaning up the yard (poop) and cleaning out Carlo's pen, then led to checking the chemical balance in the hot tub, which then led to putting more water in. Funny how one thing will lead to another. I had also been telling Greg for the last 2 weeks that I wanted to get the garage cleaned up/out for the winter. All of the "summer" stuff needed to be put up and away. So FINALLY we started on that....after, of course, I had a fun chat on the phone with Robin. :) We put the bikes in the trailer...after getting it put where we wanted it. Then moved the lawn mower out. Greg thinks I'll have to mow one more time, but with the lack of rain, I'm not so sure. We also got the old bike parts put up in the rafters (keeping the mice out of the boxes), and I swept a bucket full of dirt out. The workbench got straightened out, and things just generally put away. Its amazing how much room we had!! LOL
So, we can now fit the car and the truck in the garage...whew! It comes in really handy in the winter...no scraping ice, no frozen doors, or snow blowing in when you are getting in/out. I would like to get the garage insulated and a branch off of the heater vented out to it. Just to take the chill off. But that is a big project for another year. Funny how you can think of projects that you should really do, but have no problem waiting until the "best time" to do them....even if it means years away.
So, after getting that taken care of, we had a late lunch and then napped. I was so tired after being up since 5....Greg snores terribly sometimes, and so sleep eludes me on the bad nights. We then got up around 4pm, and I gave Greg a haircut. He wasn't real happy about it, and I kinda felt bad. He had a 9 inch ponytail, and I had to cut it off. Trimmed his hair to just above the collar, and neatened up the front. But, with his interview tomorrow, we just didn't want to risk having his long hair be the deciding factor. So, after all of that, I got a loaf of bread started, and laundry going. Supper was next, rotate laundry, eat, fold laundry, do dishes, bake bread, cool bread, then finally sit for a minute to type this blog! NOw, its time for some relaxation in that wonderful hot tub!!! :)
Cleaning up the yard (poop) and cleaning out Carlo's pen, then led to checking the chemical balance in the hot tub, which then led to putting more water in. Funny how one thing will lead to another. I had also been telling Greg for the last 2 weeks that I wanted to get the garage cleaned up/out for the winter. All of the "summer" stuff needed to be put up and away. So FINALLY we started on that....after, of course, I had a fun chat on the phone with Robin. :) We put the bikes in the trailer...after getting it put where we wanted it. Then moved the lawn mower out. Greg thinks I'll have to mow one more time, but with the lack of rain, I'm not so sure. We also got the old bike parts put up in the rafters (keeping the mice out of the boxes), and I swept a bucket full of dirt out. The workbench got straightened out, and things just generally put away. Its amazing how much room we had!! LOL
So, we can now fit the car and the truck in the garage...whew! It comes in really handy in the winter...no scraping ice, no frozen doors, or snow blowing in when you are getting in/out. I would like to get the garage insulated and a branch off of the heater vented out to it. Just to take the chill off. But that is a big project for another year. Funny how you can think of projects that you should really do, but have no problem waiting until the "best time" to do them....even if it means years away.
So, after getting that taken care of, we had a late lunch and then napped. I was so tired after being up since 5....Greg snores terribly sometimes, and so sleep eludes me on the bad nights. We then got up around 4pm, and I gave Greg a haircut. He wasn't real happy about it, and I kinda felt bad. He had a 9 inch ponytail, and I had to cut it off. Trimmed his hair to just above the collar, and neatened up the front. But, with his interview tomorrow, we just didn't want to risk having his long hair be the deciding factor. So, after all of that, I got a loaf of bread started, and laundry going. Supper was next, rotate laundry, eat, fold laundry, do dishes, bake bread, cool bread, then finally sit for a minute to type this blog! NOw, its time for some relaxation in that wonderful hot tub!!! :)
Thursday, October 11, 2007
Fall is here
Wow, is it ever! I hate the cold anyway, and when it drops below 65, I am cold. So last night, when it was 39, I thought I was going to freeze to death! I have been holding off on turning on the furnace, but did for just a bit today to knock off the chill. I knew it was chilly in the house when the dogs were curled up on the couch in tight little balls. Even during my daily "rest", Ben usually gets hot on the couch with me....not today. He was quite content to stay curled up shareing body heat. Of course, I didn't mind. Tonight its supposed to be 36...but then get warmer at night progessively throughout the week. So I'll contiue to put off the furnace. :)
My father-in-law, and brother-in-law spent the day combining corn next to my house. I don't mind that, but what I do mind is what happens as a result....mice. I know its part of living in the country. Heck, I've lived with it for over 5 years. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. So, I spent my day digging out the mouse traps. I would use poison, but the last time I did that, they crawled into my walls to die. The smell was horendous. So, no more poison. I will set out traps each night, and empty them each morning. Its just what we bumpkins do!
In other news, Greg has his first interview with DOT Foods on Monday. If he gets through that, then he'll be scheduled for a second, where he will take the drug test and driving test. He'll obviously have no problems with either one of those! So, keep your fingers crossed...he says that if he gets the job, he will quit smoking....again, keep your fingers crossed!!!
This picture is of Ben, on the watch....makes ya wonder how a 100lb, 10 month old, clumsy puppy could sit so pretty, or even get up on that table! :) Smoochy boy..
And Ben last night...he thought he was cold then, too....
My father-in-law, and brother-in-law spent the day combining corn next to my house. I don't mind that, but what I do mind is what happens as a result....mice. I know its part of living in the country. Heck, I've lived with it for over 5 years. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. So, I spent my day digging out the mouse traps. I would use poison, but the last time I did that, they crawled into my walls to die. The smell was horendous. So, no more poison. I will set out traps each night, and empty them each morning. Its just what we bumpkins do!
In other news, Greg has his first interview with DOT Foods on Monday. If he gets through that, then he'll be scheduled for a second, where he will take the drug test and driving test. He'll obviously have no problems with either one of those! So, keep your fingers crossed...he says that if he gets the job, he will quit smoking....again, keep your fingers crossed!!!
This picture is of Ben, on the watch....makes ya wonder how a 100lb, 10 month old, clumsy puppy could sit so pretty, or even get up on that table! :) Smoochy boy..
And Ben last night...he thought he was cold then, too....
Tuesday, October 9, 2007
Canine Behavior
I have been watching dogs interact with people and each other for years. I have read my fair share of literature on the subject. But for the life of me, I cannot figure Carlo out.
I have come to understand why he bit me, but its his behavior following the bite, and every day for a week that has me baffled. Why did he bite? Because he was in a dominant position (in his mind) and I was challenging him by making him get off. Ok, that I can understand. Especially from a very confident, intact male who was trained to be dominant. But, it doesn't explain his digression. He cannot stand to even look at me. The day it happened, he was moved to his outdoor kennel. Ever since then, he doesn't even want me in the back yard. He will charge the fence, barking. He will nuesance bark the entire time, and even Greg can't get him to stop. Its almost as if he has decided that the fight isn't over, that even though I had him by his neck, his head/body pushed down to the floor, my entire body over him, and continuous eye contact, that it was just the beginning. He wants another round....to prove himself, or redeem himself. Yet that dowsn't make sense with "normal" behavior. Even taking into account his training, natural canine pack instinct is such that if you are "dominated", then you are "under" that member....period.
In talking to other GS owners, especially those who have owned SchH III males, they have all said, "its because you are a woman". Well, that makes no sense at all. I can understand him feeling that he is under Greg, but if I am the "Alpha Female", then what is the problem? Again, everyone I have consulted with has said "Its a woman thing..." and none of them have met a male that actually "respects" the human female of the house. I even know of a woman who owns a SchH III male, intact, and he has cornered her in her own house, for 3 hours. She keeps him, because he is 10 years old, and she has owned him for 5 years. However, he has acted over the years the same way Carlo is acting. She cannot trust him, and he is, for the most part, a kennel dog. Retired from Schutzhund, no longer able to breed, he is living his life out merely exhisting with her. However, nobody can give me an actual valid behavioral reason for this.
So, if any of you can find something in writing, or in your experiences, I would be happy to hear it. :) On to a more happy aspect of Canine Behavior.
Today I took Elite, Macaroni, and Ben out for a long romp. Here is where you can watch pack behavior. Although loose, they still act as a group...
Still displaying the need to roll in the smelliest thing possible to disguise their scent for hunting...
You can also see when dogs are happy...I don't care what anyone says, dogs smile....
They will exhibit the desire to hunt...
And of course, the instinct to go back to the "den" after a long day....
We had fun, and it was thanx to Novel that I decided to take the camera along and take oodles of pictures. :) I think this may be a regular event...
I have come to understand why he bit me, but its his behavior following the bite, and every day for a week that has me baffled. Why did he bite? Because he was in a dominant position (in his mind) and I was challenging him by making him get off. Ok, that I can understand. Especially from a very confident, intact male who was trained to be dominant. But, it doesn't explain his digression. He cannot stand to even look at me. The day it happened, he was moved to his outdoor kennel. Ever since then, he doesn't even want me in the back yard. He will charge the fence, barking. He will nuesance bark the entire time, and even Greg can't get him to stop. Its almost as if he has decided that the fight isn't over, that even though I had him by his neck, his head/body pushed down to the floor, my entire body over him, and continuous eye contact, that it was just the beginning. He wants another round....to prove himself, or redeem himself. Yet that dowsn't make sense with "normal" behavior. Even taking into account his training, natural canine pack instinct is such that if you are "dominated", then you are "under" that member....period.
In talking to other GS owners, especially those who have owned SchH III males, they have all said, "its because you are a woman". Well, that makes no sense at all. I can understand him feeling that he is under Greg, but if I am the "Alpha Female", then what is the problem? Again, everyone I have consulted with has said "Its a woman thing..." and none of them have met a male that actually "respects" the human female of the house. I even know of a woman who owns a SchH III male, intact, and he has cornered her in her own house, for 3 hours. She keeps him, because he is 10 years old, and she has owned him for 5 years. However, he has acted over the years the same way Carlo is acting. She cannot trust him, and he is, for the most part, a kennel dog. Retired from Schutzhund, no longer able to breed, he is living his life out merely exhisting with her. However, nobody can give me an actual valid behavioral reason for this.
So, if any of you can find something in writing, or in your experiences, I would be happy to hear it. :) On to a more happy aspect of Canine Behavior.
Today I took Elite, Macaroni, and Ben out for a long romp. Here is where you can watch pack behavior. Although loose, they still act as a group...
Still displaying the need to roll in the smelliest thing possible to disguise their scent for hunting...
You can also see when dogs are happy...I don't care what anyone says, dogs smile....
They will exhibit the desire to hunt...
And of course, the instinct to go back to the "den" after a long day....
We had fun, and it was thanx to Novel that I decided to take the camera along and take oodles of pictures. :) I think this may be a regular event...
Friday, October 5, 2007
Many things
Where to start? Suddenly my life has gone from mundane, to actually having some activity :)
Let's start with Carlo...ugh. I was bitter about him biting me, but as each day goes by, it just turns in to hate. I know, that is bad to say, but its his current behavior that is just not helping. It seems that in his mind, he is "one up" on me. Even though when he bit me, I was over him, I had him in a "submissive" position, and made him do what I said (platz, foos, box {down, heel, kennel}). He has digressed immensly. I can no longer feed him, most times when I walk by his kennel he throws a fit, and in general has shown pure hatred for me. I made a sort of "prison slot" in order to feed him without going in his kennel, but he tried to eat my hand when putting the bowl in. So today I basically made a "food chute". Its a pipe system that when I poor food in, it dumps right into his bowl. He still has a fit, but at least he can't get to me. Greg doesn't want to get rid of him....although I think it will be an ongoing discussion. Logically I should, but I won't argue with Greg's heart. He does still love Carlo, and is extremely attached....and in his mind, if we can put a band-aid on the situation for the moment, then things will be OK....hhhmmm.
We finally got the hot tub going, and I'm still trying to get the pH up to where it needs to be. But maybe I'll get in it tonight....I think I need it.
I also want to say thank you to Novel and Robin for your comments on my last post. As I told Robin, I refuse to edit, or not publish the comments, because we are all entitled to our opinions, and our beliefs. Who am I to quel your comments? I am by no means offended by what they said, as the 3 of us all understand each other. We understand each other's past, our faith, and our general morals/beliefs. So it would be rude and hypocritical to either edit or not publish them. I asked the question, and will publish all answers. That is what makes us friends, and will keep us that way....the maturity to understand and accept each other.
Ok, enough mush....haha
Well, I think that's all....
Let's start with Carlo...ugh. I was bitter about him biting me, but as each day goes by, it just turns in to hate. I know, that is bad to say, but its his current behavior that is just not helping. It seems that in his mind, he is "one up" on me. Even though when he bit me, I was over him, I had him in a "submissive" position, and made him do what I said (platz, foos, box {down, heel, kennel}). He has digressed immensly. I can no longer feed him, most times when I walk by his kennel he throws a fit, and in general has shown pure hatred for me. I made a sort of "prison slot" in order to feed him without going in his kennel, but he tried to eat my hand when putting the bowl in. So today I basically made a "food chute". Its a pipe system that when I poor food in, it dumps right into his bowl. He still has a fit, but at least he can't get to me. Greg doesn't want to get rid of him....although I think it will be an ongoing discussion. Logically I should, but I won't argue with Greg's heart. He does still love Carlo, and is extremely attached....and in his mind, if we can put a band-aid on the situation for the moment, then things will be OK....hhhmmm.
We finally got the hot tub going, and I'm still trying to get the pH up to where it needs to be. But maybe I'll get in it tonight....I think I need it.
I also want to say thank you to Novel and Robin for your comments on my last post. As I told Robin, I refuse to edit, or not publish the comments, because we are all entitled to our opinions, and our beliefs. Who am I to quel your comments? I am by no means offended by what they said, as the 3 of us all understand each other. We understand each other's past, our faith, and our general morals/beliefs. So it would be rude and hypocritical to either edit or not publish them. I asked the question, and will publish all answers. That is what makes us friends, and will keep us that way....the maturity to understand and accept each other.
Ok, enough mush....haha
Well, I think that's all....
Wednesday, October 3, 2007
Open Thinking....
Ok, so I've been slacking on the "daily entries" here. Thing is, there hasn't been much to talk about. My life is pretty boring on the whole, so to blog daily becomes very repetitive. However, I'm sure I can dig up something to write about today, if nothing else to keep everyone coming back to see what's up.
Greg will be home this evening (finally) with the hot tub, so my job today is to prep the deck. I need to cut part of the bench out, which means I get to use POWER TOOLS....YES!!!! I'll even use the kind you plug in....woohoo!! lol :)
In other news (Novel, we have discussed this in part) I have put the E-Collar on Ben. His morning barking, or should I say screaming, has gotten out of control. Telling him to stop is pointless. So this morning I put the collar on, and then proceeded as normal with my chores. As soon as he started in, I hit the remote. Boy, did that get his attention. He was not happy, and it only took about 4 times before he got the hint. Question is, will he remember at 0500 tomorrow morning? We'll see. Some say its cruel, but I disagree. As we all know, in the wrong hands, yes, it is abuse. But when used correctly, to cause only discomfort and not pain, to get attention and stop the unwanted behavior, it is a great tool.
Another thought....homosexuality. What would you do if a close relative "came out"? How would you feel? Would the feelings be different if it was a guy or girl? Some people base their thoughts on their faith, others based on the "unknown", or "homo-phobia". For me, it doesn't bother me. Let me clarify that. I believe its genetic, and I believe that its not a "choice", but that the person is born that way. So how can we blame them? In our parent's generation, and many generations before them, religion played a larger part in life than it does today. This dictated how people lived their lives, and their thoughts. To be gay was out of the question, and therefore hidden from everyone, including themselves. Feelings were supressed, and life went on in the "normal" way.
Times have changed dramatically, and continue to do so. Homosexuality is more widely accepted, and not supressed nearly as much. Personally, as long as you aren't grotesquely flaunting it out of spite, or resentful about it, or being pushy, I don't care. Your life is your life, not mine. It runs in my family. Both sides, as a matter of fact. So who am I to dispute it? Who am I to say its wrong? Who am I to say they can't have that lifestyle? I'm not saying anyone has to agree with it, or embrace it, no, my question is....who are we to judge?
Just something to think about......
Greg will be home this evening (finally) with the hot tub, so my job today is to prep the deck. I need to cut part of the bench out, which means I get to use POWER TOOLS....YES!!!! I'll even use the kind you plug in....woohoo!! lol :)
In other news (Novel, we have discussed this in part) I have put the E-Collar on Ben. His morning barking, or should I say screaming, has gotten out of control. Telling him to stop is pointless. So this morning I put the collar on, and then proceeded as normal with my chores. As soon as he started in, I hit the remote. Boy, did that get his attention. He was not happy, and it only took about 4 times before he got the hint. Question is, will he remember at 0500 tomorrow morning? We'll see. Some say its cruel, but I disagree. As we all know, in the wrong hands, yes, it is abuse. But when used correctly, to cause only discomfort and not pain, to get attention and stop the unwanted behavior, it is a great tool.
Another thought....homosexuality. What would you do if a close relative "came out"? How would you feel? Would the feelings be different if it was a guy or girl? Some people base their thoughts on their faith, others based on the "unknown", or "homo-phobia". For me, it doesn't bother me. Let me clarify that. I believe its genetic, and I believe that its not a "choice", but that the person is born that way. So how can we blame them? In our parent's generation, and many generations before them, religion played a larger part in life than it does today. This dictated how people lived their lives, and their thoughts. To be gay was out of the question, and therefore hidden from everyone, including themselves. Feelings were supressed, and life went on in the "normal" way.
Times have changed dramatically, and continue to do so. Homosexuality is more widely accepted, and not supressed nearly as much. Personally, as long as you aren't grotesquely flaunting it out of spite, or resentful about it, or being pushy, I don't care. Your life is your life, not mine. It runs in my family. Both sides, as a matter of fact. So who am I to dispute it? Who am I to say its wrong? Who am I to say they can't have that lifestyle? I'm not saying anyone has to agree with it, or embrace it, no, my question is....who are we to judge?
Just something to think about......
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